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also free 22 hamas fighters. the incident has proved a disaster. >> the failed assassination was a disaster. poison and second, israel had to free this man from jail. sheikh ahmed yassin, the sick but still powerful spiritual leader of hamas. today he got a hero's welcome in gaza. also free, 22 hamas fighters. the incident has proved a disaster. the failed assassination was indeed a disaster for israel. the guy they were trying to kill did not dye die. israeli agents were captured. israel had to provide the antidote to save the life of the guy they were trying to kill, and they had to release almost two dozen palestinians from jail. there is pressure on prime minister netanyahu to resign. 15 years later netanyahu is again the prime minister. and meshaal is the again the head of hamas. he has been in exile the hole time. he has never, ever been to gaza, which is where hamas is based until today. today the hamas leader visited gaza for the very first time in his entire life. he was there to celebrate the group's 25
also free 22 hamas fighters. the incident has proved a disaster. >> the failed assassination was a disaster. poison and second, israel had to free this man from jail. sheikh ahmed yassin, the sick but still powerful spiritual leader of hamas. today he got a hero's welcome in gaza. also free, 22 hamas fighters. the incident has proved a disaster. the failed assassination was indeed a disaster for israel. the guy they were trying to kill did not dye die. israeli agents were captured. israel...
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also free 22 hamas fighters. the incident has proved a disaster. >> the failed assassination was a disaster. it was as if it was part of a very bad hollywood movie. >> jordan's king hussein was outraged. the hit was in his capital and he is israel's strongest arab ally. hussein made two deals. he would return the two captured agents if first israel would provide an antidote for the poison and second, israel had to free this man from jail. today the hamas leader visited gaza for the very first time in his entire life. he was there to celebrate the group's 25th anniversary. there will be a huge rally tomorrow. also on the agenda, a visit to the family of one of the men released from an israeli prison 15 years ago in the wake of that failed assassination attempt. that one released from prison by israel. he was successfully assassinated in 2004. khaled meshaal visited his family home today. but the most important thing to know here is how the head of hamas got into gaza. he was allowed to enter the territory through
also free 22 hamas fighters. the incident has proved a disaster. >> the failed assassination was a disaster. it was as if it was part of a very bad hollywood movie. >> jordan's king hussein was outraged. the hit was in his capital and he is israel's strongest arab ally. hussein made two deals. he would return the two captured agents if first israel would provide an antidote for the poison and second, israel had to free this man from jail. today the hamas leader visited gaza for the...
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but grover norquist is smart on this. even if it's more efficient, that makes it easier to raise taxes. a tax code that gets high enough it's hurting the country because they won't allow real tax reform to support it. >> i totally agree. you end up in a situation where we on the books have a progressive system. even compared to other countries. we pay much less in taxes overall and we have much stingier-defined public goods. the point is that the most successful social welfare states are one where there's this universal pay in. the way we're going with this inequality is talking about means testing, which is a way from a model of universal pay in and benefit. that's sustainable. >> chris hayes, thank you for being here. >>> oneover the coolest things human beings has ever seen celebrates a big birthday. it's sort of a best new moment of geek and it's coming up. comes with some risk, but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, t
but grover norquist is smart on this. even if it's more efficient, that makes it easier to raise taxes. a tax code that gets high enough it's hurting the country because they won't allow real tax reform to support it. >> i totally agree. you end up in a situation where we on the books have a progressive system. even compared to other countries. we pay much less in taxes overall and we have much stingier-defined public goods. the point is that the most successful social welfare states are...
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also free 22 hamas fighters. the incident has proved a disaster. >> the failed assassination was a disaster for israel. the guy they were trying to kill did not die. israeli agents were captured. they provided an antidote for the guy they were going to kill and had to release two dozen men from jail to get their guy back from jordan. this pressured him to resign. again he's the prime minister and mashal is the red of hamas. he's lived in exile the entire time. he was born on the west bank and left as a kid but never been to gaza where hamas is based until today. today he visited gaza for the first time in his life. he was there to celebrate the 25th anniversary. there will be a huge rally tomorrow. also on the agenda, a visit to the family of one of the men released from an israeli prison 15 years ago in the wake of that failed assassination attempt. that one released from prison by israel. he was successfully assassinated by israel in 2004. khaled meshaal visited his family home today. but the most important thi
also free 22 hamas fighters. the incident has proved a disaster. >> the failed assassination was a disaster for israel. the guy they were trying to kill did not die. israeli agents were captured. they provided an antidote for the guy they were going to kill and had to release two dozen men from jail to get their guy back from jordan. this pressured him to resign. again he's the prime minister and mashal is the red of hamas. he's lived in exile the entire time. he was born on the west bank...
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we've got 22 days. the president's got a fairly strong hand on here. if nothing happens then all the taxes go up. but i think that the republicans have got to really put spending cuts at the front of this table. we can't just get a commitment to talk about them. if the republicans go along with a tax increase which is as most people know, that's the worst thing republicans can do as far as the base is concerned, they've got to get some serious spending cuts to be able to take back home after christmas. >> let's put that poll back up. because, chip, you're saying certain people say this is meaningless to me. but, jamie, this politico number that we're looking at here, if republicans agree to raise taxes on the top 2%, what assurances are they going to have on the back end that democrats are going to be able to come back next year and work to simplify tax code reform entitlements like chip points out? >> listen, tom, in terms of polls being meaningless, my good friend chip, the republicans aren't very -- don't like polls very well as we saw in the last p
we've got 22 days. the president's got a fairly strong hand on here. if nothing happens then all the taxes go up. but i think that the republicans have got to really put spending cuts at the front of this table. we can't just get a commitment to talk about them. if the republicans go along with a tax increase which is as most people know, that's the worst thing republicans can do as far as the base is concerned, they've got to get some serious spending cuts to be able to take back home after...
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one is doma, defense of marriage act. this administration won't defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender. what happens if doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4, whatever. >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone. >> what would it mean to a person married? >> that would bemean couples married in those states would be recognized by the federal government. would mean we still have a lot of work to do and depending how they rule in the prop 8 case we still need other states to move forward with the right to marry. >> an honor to have you on and elizabeth, glad to have you back in a much bigger studio now. the republican establishment at war with his crazy wing, said they lost election because i ideologues pulled mitt romney too far to the right. wrong says the right ring, we lost because mitt romney wasn't right wing enough. the winner will determine whether the gop returns to the center or becomes a more fringy party. >>> two people get in the room. the p
one is doma, defense of marriage act. this administration won't defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender. what happens if doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4, whatever. >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone. >> what would it mean to a person married? >> that would bemean couples married in those states would be recognized by the federal government....
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what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is married? >> that would mean that couples who are married in those states as well as the district of columbia, their marriages would be recognized by the federal government. now, it would mean we still have a lot of work to do, and depending on how they rule in the prop 8 case, we would still need other states to move forward with the right to marry. >> right. >> thank you. it's an honor to have you on and your organization. elizabeth birch, we are in a much bigger studio. >>> the republican establishment is at war with its crazy wing. they say they lost the election because ideologues pulled mitt romney foo far to the right. that sounds reasonable. wrong says the right wing. we lost because mitt romney wasn't right wing enough. the winner of this little tango will determine whether the gop moves to the center where it might find some votes or becomes an even more fri
what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is married? >> that would mean that couples who are married in those states as well as the district of columbia, their marriages would be recognized by the federal government. now, it would mean we still have a lot of work to do, and depending on how they rule in the prop 8 case, we would still...
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what doma says is two things. one state does not have to recognize the marriage law, same-sex marriage law, of another state. that would be struck down and then there would have to be another test as to full faith and credit. >> if you move from california to utah and you're getting the recognized marriage in california but not in utah, but in utah living in salt lake city you'd be able to get social security benefits and all the federal stuff. >> you would -- it's not clear. >> it would depend how the court rules in that case. >> if the court reaches the question of full faith and credit, what that is, utah must recognize the marriage laws of california, then, yes -- >> but you'd still be getting your social security checks, wouldn't you? >> it's not clear -- >> let's go back to a clear case. if prop 8 -- if the decision by the ninth , if the decision to strike that down, if that is upheld, where do we stand? what does that do? is equality then the law of the land? is marriage equality the law of land? >> it woul
what doma says is two things. one state does not have to recognize the marriage law, same-sex marriage law, of another state. that would be struck down and then there would have to be another test as to full faith and credit. >> if you move from california to utah and you're getting the recognized marriage in california but not in utah, but in utah living in salt lake city you'd be able to get social security benefits and all the federal stuff. >> you would -- it's not clear....
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i spoke with grover norquist about this magic math that the republicans are doing. let's say they put closing loopholes and deductions on the table. the issue is whether anybody is going to go for this. the deductions that are there are very popular. the ones that would get the most revenue on the table are employer sponsored health insurance which is $164 billion, the mortgage interest deduction which is $100 billion, tax free medicare benefits $76 billion and charitable contributions no one on either side of the aisle wants to get rid of, $51. why are we talking about the closing of loopholes and ending deductions? >> i don't think we should go too far here. it is worth talking about. it gets strange quickly. here's the way i've been thinking about it. almost all of these plans are just about deductions, not about exclusions. i've not heard anybody talking seriously about the employer health tax exclusion, that's a separate tax and not a deduction. when talking about all these plans the republicans have begun to broach about limiting deductions to save $25,000 or
i spoke with grover norquist about this magic math that the republicans are doing. let's say they put closing loopholes and deductions on the table. the issue is whether anybody is going to go for this. the deductions that are there are very popular. the ones that would get the most revenue on the table are employer sponsored health insurance which is $164 billion, the mortgage interest deduction which is $100 billion, tax free medicare benefits $76 billion and charitable contributions no one...
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it happened on the doma issue. because doma does address the general issue of man, woman, marriage. but then you have california, prop 8 and prop 8 struck down and movement in california. other states that have legal i seed gay marriage. maryland, for instance. so, it's not like the feds are going to try to enforce dome marks right? >> two different issues. one is criminal and one is something totally different. >> right, it's still selective. i'm not making a judgment. it's interesting that there are these conflicts. and this happens on not a lot of issues. and what's the latest with you on -- your name is so difficult to say but anna hita, what's your take on the pot issue? >> my take is that i would urge washington pot smokers not to rush out and pull out the cheetoes quite yet. because under federal law it is illegal to possess, to sell, to smoke pot. we know that federal law trumps state law. so i think not only will the federal -- the feds have an obligation to get in there and ensure that their laws are upheld. >> laura: their laws are on the books. whether immigration, their
it happened on the doma issue. because doma does address the general issue of man, woman, marriage. but then you have california, prop 8 and prop 8 struck down and movement in california. other states that have legal i seed gay marriage. maryland, for instance. so, it's not like the feds are going to try to enforce dome marks right? >> two different issues. one is criminal and one is something totally different. >> right, it's still selective. i'm not making a judgment. it's...
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it decided to take these two, doma and proposition 8. why do you think they took these and not others? >> you know, after this election, this issue is so ripe for the supreme court the jurisdictions are so split in their laws, many states recognizing same-sex marriage and performing same-sex marriages. some states not recognizing them. this is the perfect scenario for the supreme court to step in and ultimately make a ruling. there are over 1,000 cases, joe, in which federal laws are impacted by marital status.
it decided to take these two, doma and proposition 8. why do you think they took these and not others? >> you know, after this election, this issue is so ripe for the supreme court the jurisdictions are so split in their laws, many states recognizing same-sex marriage and performing same-sex marriages. some states not recognizing them. this is the perfect scenario for the supreme court to step in and ultimately make a ruling. there are over 1,000 cases, joe, in which federal laws are...
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when the supremes get down to assessing doma, we can expect the conservatives to defend doma and the liberals to strike it down. the comp significance of the majority will be determined by the votes of chief justice roberts who has shown he's willing to leave the conservatives if he feels the court's legacy is in peril and kenne kennedy. he wrote the constitution prohibits laws singling out a certain class of citizens for disfavored legal status. it appears doma will get tossed in the dust bin of history. the courts other gay rights case comes from california which gave gays the right to marry and then with proposition 8 took it away. taking away an existing right because of animus was prohibited by the court in a '96 decision authored by justice kennedy. but where the doma case asks can the federal government discriminate against married couple, the prop 8 case asks can states bar gays from marrying. kennedy has the opportunity to liberate california or create a gay roe v. wade. s acceptance is only growing. kennedy can only give the gay rights movement a decisive final
when the supremes get down to assessing doma, we can expect the conservatives to defend doma and the liberals to strike it down. the comp significance of the majority will be determined by the votes of chief justice roberts who has shown he's willing to leave the conservatives if he feels the court's legacy is in peril and kenne kennedy. he wrote the constitution prohibits laws singling out a certain class of citizens for disfavored legal status. it appears doma will get tossed in the dust bin...
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even the justice department won't defend doma. so they can wrap it just on invalidating doma without answering the question of the validity of same-sex marriage. that's an easy way to do it. that's what supreme court decisions often will resolve cases by. look at the procedural issue. this is an answer the american people want. the supreme court recognizes that. they will make a ruling on it. this court will decide this. >> hang on, guys. a wisconsin dad is on the hook for $90,000 in back child support. he had nine kids with six different women. what the judge said he can't do anymore until he pays up. legal guys will weigh in on that as well. >>> and the looming fiscal cliff. the president says raising money on the wealthiest americans could raise a trillion dollars. from the best players in history to the number 1 club in the world. the potential of manchester united unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. help
even the justice department won't defend doma. so they can wrap it just on invalidating doma without answering the question of the validity of same-sex marriage. that's an easy way to do it. that's what supreme court decisions often will resolve cases by. look at the procedural issue. this is an answer the american people want. the supreme court recognizes that. they will make a ruling on it. this court will decide this. >> hang on, guys. a wisconsin dad is on the hook for $90,000 in back...
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there was a debate about doma, about striking doma from the platform. those who fought for it tended to be much older in that demographic. the younger the republican, the younger the conservative, the younger the libertarian, the chances are they're either agnostic or their fully -- >> you're getting into it much faster than i want to. we're going to go to blows. here it is, the language on gay marriage. it's not just against doma. quote, we reaffirm our support for a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman. we aflawed the citizens of the majority of states which have enshrined in their constitutions the traditional concept of marriage, and we support the campaigns under way in several other states to do so. and take a look at what the republican candidate mitt romney said back in may about his opposition to not only gay marriage, but even civil unions. let's watch. >> i think people have differing views on marriage, and i respect people's different views. when i served as governor of my state, this issue arose,
there was a debate about doma, about striking doma from the platform. those who fought for it tended to be much older in that demographic. the younger the republican, the younger the conservative, the younger the libertarian, the chances are they're either agnostic or their fully -- >> you're getting into it much faster than i want to. we're going to go to blows. here it is, the language on gay marriage. it's not just against doma. quote, we reaffirm our support for a constitutional...
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this additional tax on same sex domestic partners adds another sting to doma. these next few weeks will be significant forjíÑ the lgbt community and those who stand with them as the supreme court will decide whether to -- proposition 8 perry case and various doma cases however i don't believe we should stand still while this discrimination continues. i look forward to working with everyone on the board to the rest i submit. >> clerk calvillo: thank you. supervisor chu. >> supervisor chu: thank you very much. i have an empirrative item later on and i want to speak to it. it is a purely commendatory item. i am joined by supervisor elsbernd in sponsoring this. i simply want to recognize the grand reopening of the sunset rec center in my district located in the the heart of the sunset district and is actually our own full scale rec center that is available. we have many playgrounds, play fields, but we don't necessarily have a rec center so this one has been under construction foru the last two years. it was part of the 2008 clean that the voters approved and is
this additional tax on same sex domestic partners adds another sting to doma. these next few weeks will be significant forjíÑ the lgbt community and those who stand with them as the supreme court will decide whether to -- proposition 8 perry case and various doma cases however i don't believe we should stand still while this discrimination continues. i look forward to working with everyone on the board to the rest i submit. >> clerk calvillo: thank you. supervisor chu. >>...
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georgia, 22%. louisiana, your favorite state, 22%. >> my favorite state but not my favorite governor. >> right. but if you look at the amount of money you're talking about that they're turning down. for example, texas is talking about turning down $66 billion over ten years for its poor and for its uninsured. florida, $65 billion. georgia $33 billion. louisiana $16 billion for its uninsured and its poor. this is unsustainable. like you said, 95, 97% of all the resources are going to be borne by the federal government. and the important issue also to know is that 83% of the people we're talking about, that is the uninsured, work every day. this is the working poor. >> yep. >> we're not talking about freeloaders or people sitting around. most of this population works two or even three jobs. we're talking about the working poor. >> that said, dr. smitherman. there's an epidemiological claim to be made, even if they were freeloaders, there's a kind of human rights to health care. >> yes, of course. >>
georgia, 22%. louisiana, your favorite state, 22%. >> my favorite state but not my favorite governor. >> right. but if you look at the amount of money you're talking about that they're turning down. for example, texas is talking about turning down $66 billion over ten years for its poor and for its uninsured. florida, $65 billion. georgia $33 billion. louisiana $16 billion for its uninsured and its poor. this is unsustainable. like you said, 95, 97% of all the resources are going to...
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bob corker, the republican in the senate said he would break the grover norquist push. he didn't talk about the tax rates. as we all know, the key is the president's and democrats insistence on the rate going up from 35 to 39n't 6%. this week, he was much more specific. he's saying to republicans, hey, cut our losses now and live to fight another day. here he is. >> has a growing group of folks looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue. we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate in the democrats hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i think it has merit. you go in and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about. the rate increase on the top 2%. all of a sudden, the shift goes back to entitlements. >> what corker is also saying, what he went on to say is when we hit the debt ceiling next year, in february, then republicans are going to have the leverage then. that's something the president dispu disputed. one problem, bob corker is a senator, he's not in the house of representati
bob corker, the republican in the senate said he would break the grover norquist push. he didn't talk about the tax rates. as we all know, the key is the president's and democrats insistence on the rate going up from 35 to 39n't 6%. this week, he was much more specific. he's saying to republicans, hey, cut our losses now and live to fight another day. here he is. >> has a growing group of folks looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue. we...
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. >> particularly over the doma case. gay marriage advocates who want the defense of marriage act struck down say doma creates a gay-only exception to federal recognition of state licensed marriages. and we believe that the federal government should stop discriminating against same sex couples legally married by their states. but defender of traditional marriage between one man and one woman say, quote: since president bill clinton signed doma into law, 30 states have followed suit by incorporating the definition of marriage into their constitutions. voters in these states will not accept an activist court redefining our most fundamental social institution. arguments on both cases are likely to be in march and rules likely in june. shep? >> shepard: we got another announcement from the supreme court today. it's going to take up another case that really could effect what we all pay for prescription drugs. >> right. this is about the battle between more expensive brand name drugs and cheaper generic drugs. some of the brand
. >> particularly over the doma case. gay marriage advocates who want the defense of marriage act struck down say doma creates a gay-only exception to federal recognition of state licensed marriages. and we believe that the federal government should stop discriminating against same sex couples legally married by their states. but defender of traditional marriage between one man and one woman say, quote: since president bill clinton signed doma into law, 30 states have followed suit by...
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or would, if the supreme court rules against doma. >> if the supreme court rules against doma, nothing changes. >> if they rule for california? >> uh-huh. >> how about all of those other state constitdeletions? automatically invalid dated. >> the 9th circuit, when they decided the case they ruled very narrowly. they said because california had the right, california same-sex couples had the right to marry. then it was taken away from them, that this was similar to the 1996 supreme court case when the colorado voters had amended their constitution and it was a case rommer versus evans in which the voters had taken away ability for any city in colorado to have a non-discrimination policy based upon sexual orientation. the court there had said you can't take away people's rights to enter the system. >> bill: the court could say it's up to the states? >> the court could say you can't take away rights. >> bill: uh-huh. >> you have already granted. that would only impact the state of california. but they could also say that the 14th amendment to the constitution guarantees fundamental rights
or would, if the supreme court rules against doma. >> if the supreme court rules against doma, nothing changes. >> if they rule for california? >> uh-huh. >> how about all of those other state constitdeletions? automatically invalid dated. >> the 9th circuit, when they decided the case they ruled very narrowly. they said because california had the right, california same-sex couples had the right to marry. then it was taken away from them, that this was similar to...
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and we've spent a lot of time talking about grover norquist, another person out of government in the mind of everyone serving in government. and that is a way to make change. >> ryan, we talked about the heritage foundation. and if he is going to be an activist, is heritage the right place to go? senator demint is the one who said if we're able to stop obama on the affordable care act, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. the idea for an individual mandate which is the centerpiece of the affordable care act was birthed at the heritage foundation. >> right. but i think jim demint can kind of shape the heritage foundation to his political will. and the fact that he is able to go to the heritage foundation actually says a lot about where the two parties are on the spectrum. you could never imagine a democratic senator the equivalent of demint. you know, you couldn't imagine somebody like bernie sanders, for instance. you couldn't imagine him going to run the center for progress there is too much daylight between the establishment in washington and the kind of left wing of the dem
and we've spent a lot of time talking about grover norquist, another person out of government in the mind of everyone serving in government. and that is a way to make change. >> ryan, we talked about the heritage foundation. and if he is going to be an activist, is heritage the right place to go? senator demint is the one who said if we're able to stop obama on the affordable care act, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. the idea for an individual mandate which is the centerpiece...
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the first seeks to strike down the federal government's defense of marriage act, known as doma. the second involves a challenge to california's proposition 8, a voter-approved ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage. a federal appeals court struck down the law earlier this year. the court's decision to weigh in on marriage equality came as same-sex couples began marrying in washington state yesterday. on election day voters there and in maryland and in maine made history when they became the first states to approve same-sex marriage at the ballot box. joining us now to discuss is steve, chair of the gay and lesbian victory fund. great to have you. >> nice to be here, alex. s. >> so a lot of tea leaf read and arm chair prognostication around this. i am by no means a supreme court expert, but when i saw that they were taking up both doma and prop 8, question as to whether they would take up inform i them at all, it seemed to me a signal that the court was ready to make a big decision, and i just cannot imagine, especially when you have conservatives like john roberts, wh
the first seeks to strike down the federal government's defense of marriage act, known as doma. the second involves a challenge to california's proposition 8, a voter-approved ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage. a federal appeals court struck down the law earlier this year. the court's decision to weigh in on marriage equality came as same-sex couples began marrying in washington state yesterday. on election day voters there and in maryland and in maine made history when they...
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federal que prohÍbe al gobierno federal reconocer esas relaciones >>> la ley federal conocida como doma o acta de defensa del matrimonio reconozca ce las uni de las parejas heterosexuales >>> nuestra familia sufre bastante con esta discriminaciÓn, no podemos tener aseguranza legales como protecciÓn >>> la corte suprema tambiÉn accediÓ a pronunciarse sobre la proposiciÓn 8 que prohibio el matrimonio en parejas del mismo sexo en california, la decisiÓn tambiÉn se espera para mediados del aÑo y podrÍa tener implicaciones en estos el paÍs >>> cuando la corte suprema toma un caso es ya un, la Última voz la Última opiniÓn. jurÍdica y legal que tiene con este tema. >>> un tema que cada vez goza de mÁs aceptaciÓn social >>> segÚn la ultima en cuesta 54% de los estadounidenses hoy apoyan el matrimonio entre para rijs d parejas del mismo sexo y tren los latinos es aÚn mayor 6 de cada 10 estÁn de acuerdo que fue dan casarse >>> sin embargo el matrimonio gay aÚn tiene grandes opositores entre ellos poderosos grupos relaci religiosos para quienes estas uniones representan un prob
federal que prohÍbe al gobierno federal reconocer esas relaciones >>> la ley federal conocida como doma o acta de defensa del matrimonio reconozca ce las uni de las parejas heterosexuales >>> nuestra familia sufre bastante con esta discriminaciÓn, no podemos tener aseguranza legales como protecciÓn >>> la corte suprema tambiÉn accediÓ a pronunciarse sobre la proposiciÓn 8 que prohibio el matrimonio en parejas del mismo sexo en california, la decisiÓn tambiÉn...
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>> well, the challenge here to doma really is that only this provision in doma is unconstitutional as applied to legally married same-sex couples. the argument is that that provision discriminates against them by treating them differently from legally married opposite sex couple its. so if the court found in favor of edie windsor as the lower federal appellate court here did t would not affect any state's law that prohibits same-sex marriage so this is more of a yes or so no question, there aren't as many options as there are with the california prop 8 case for the court. >> warner: very briefly, the court did also raise so called standing issues in each one is it fair to say if they rule on these standing issue these could be incredibly narrow rulings. >> they could. the standing questions have to do with whether parties including the united states government are properly before the court in these cases. if the court finds that they are not properly before them the court will never even get to the marriage. the cases will be dismissed. >> warner: marcia, thank you so much. >> my plea
>> well, the challenge here to doma really is that only this provision in doma is unconstitutional as applied to legally married same-sex couples. the argument is that that provision discriminates against them by treating them differently from legally married opposite sex couple its. so if the court found in favor of edie windsor as the lower federal appellate court here did t would not affect any state's law that prohibits same-sex marriage so this is more of a yes or so no question,...
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grover norquist also an outsider, as you mentioned. clearly that works. the other piece about scott that i think is so interesting, even though as you pointed out, he is not on my cell we are not texting, we are not calling. >> but i would be the first to get up and give credit to a republican party that thought more about how to include minority voices in leadership. it's something they have struggled with. they should do it. and policy is important too there is a whole question around civil rights. i would argue way behind. but representation matters. jay-z famously said on his most recent album, when you see me, see you. politics works the same way. you want success to be shared. you want it to be represented. and i would urge the republicans to think long and hard about how to have a leadership structure that looks more like america. >> you just dropped the mic. i love it. i love it. more from the brain trust on the other side of this break as the supreme court is about to take up same-sex marriage. it is being called a watershed moment in the fight f
grover norquist also an outsider, as you mentioned. clearly that works. the other piece about scott that i think is so interesting, even though as you pointed out, he is not on my cell we are not texting, we are not calling. >> but i would be the first to get up and give credit to a republican party that thought more about how to include minority voices in leadership. it's something they have struggled with. they should do it. and policy is important too there is a whole question around...
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, the four democratic -- the four democratic members of the court will vote to allow -- to overturn doma, to allow california to have same-sex marriages. i think anthony kennedy, as is often the case, will be the swing vote. >> jeff toobin, thanks very much. >>> tragedy after a prank call makes headlines. this is such an awful story. a pair of australian shock jocks, deejays, whatever you want to call them, got through to the ward treating katherine, the duchess of cambridge. the nurse that answered the phone has apparently taken her own life. there's fallout for the deejays. the royal family is weighing in on what happened. we have a live report ahead. aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. >>> the fight for a baby girl. the father says the mother never told him she was giving it up for adoption. will the adoptive parents give her up? that's the question. a judge has ruled. we'll tell you what happened when we continue. >>> tonight, "360" following
, the four democratic -- the four democratic members of the court will vote to allow -- to overturn doma, to allow california to have same-sex marriages. i think anthony kennedy, as is often the case, will be the swing vote. >> jeff toobin, thanks very much. >>> tragedy after a prank call makes headlines. this is such an awful story. a pair of australian shock jocks, deejays, whatever you want to call them, got through to the ward treating katherine, the duchess of cambridge. the...
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of the sisters of loreto my wish is that we achieve marriage equality in every state and we resend doma on the federal level to achieve full quality for lesbian and gay relationships across the land. >> i wish that the bees were not dying from. >> that is a good one. >> my hope is for improved economic conditions for my country's most vulnerable people that we create healthy environments and green spaces and by country men and women become fully conscious of their ability to change things for the better. >> baptist from haiti. my wish is for more justice, economic as well as social justice, starting with the recognition that poverty is not a sin. >> i wish for wish for a world without boarders and walls, age 53, argentina. [ applause ] >> i wish for a world where the children are more just and more kind and fair in the world than the one we know. president, barack obama. >> and now, this is a good one, that donna and i can very strongly identify with. i wish that male fashion designers would be forced to wear the things that they create for women like stelleto heals and it gets better.
of the sisters of loreto my wish is that we achieve marriage equality in every state and we resend doma on the federal level to achieve full quality for lesbian and gay relationships across the land. >> i wish that the bees were not dying from. >> that is a good one. >> my hope is for improved economic conditions for my country's most vulnerable people that we create healthy environments and green spaces and by country men and women become fully conscious of their ability to...
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is doma doomed? >> i think it is. there are four district courts saying it violated the rights of gay and lesbian couples. there are two court of appeals. so there's a heavy judicial pile of precedent here from the lower courts. the only question remains is one of standing. but i think that it really is losing steam. the questions going to be holings worth and whether they leave this question to states like california. and that could be a really painful decision if it goes the wrong way. saying it violated the rights of
is doma doomed? >> i think it is. there are four district courts saying it violated the rights of gay and lesbian couples. there are two court of appeals. so there's a heavy judicial pile of precedent here from the lower courts. the only question remains is one of standing. but i think that it really is losing steam. the questions going to be holings worth and whether they leave this question to states like california. and that could be a really painful decision if it goes the wrong way....
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the other case called windsor versus doma originated in new york and challenges the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act. we're going to talk about this a little bit more this morning, and we'll have our legal contributor paul callan discuss it with us right after this break. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. up high! ok. don't you have any usefull apps on that thing? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to quickly calculate your mortgage payment based on today's incredibly low interest rates... right from your iphone or android smartphone. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ♪ home of the legendary grand prix circuit. the perfect place to bring the all-new cadillac ats to test the 2.0-liter turbo engine. [ engine revs ] ♪ [ derek ] 272 horsepower. the lightest i
the other case called windsor versus doma originated in new york and challenges the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act. we're going to talk about this a little bit more this morning, and we'll have our legal contributor paul callan discuss it with us right after this break. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express...
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. >> high court we'll take a look at the constitutional of doma which shuts doubt benefits for same-sex marriage couples ruling foz both cases expected by june. >> thank you. >> defense of marriage act signed into law in 1996. in february, 2004, san francisco began)cuh issuing same-sex marriage licenses until an order to stop in march. in 2005 california legislature passed a bill legalizing same-sex marriage. but waits vetoed by governor schwartzeneggar. three years later put to a vote. prop 8 passes banning same-sex marriage. and 2010, prop 8 ruled unconstitutional. >> we'll have more on the question at 6:00. let's move on to other news. a major road in eastern contra costa county is closed because of a fatal car crash. sky 7 is over the scene. you're looking at aftermath of a terrible head on collision. the california patrol conferms one person died and this is the tough part. witnesses say the victim looks like a young boy around 7 years old, we're sorry to tell you. the accident happened at 3:30 this afternoon. the chp there is no estimate on when the scene will be cleared but one f
. >> high court we'll take a look at the constitutional of doma which shuts doubt benefits for same-sex marriage couples ruling foz both cases expected by june. >> thank you. >> defense of marriage act signed into law in 1996. in february, 2004, san francisco began)cuh issuing same-sex marriage licenses until an order to stop in march. in 2005 california legislature passed a bill legalizing same-sex marriage. but waits vetoed by governor schwartzeneggar. three years later put...
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there's a variety of different ways they could decide on doma. you know, they don't have to decide on equal protection grounds but the narrow question of benefits or certain benefits or certain tax breaks that married people who happen to be same sex should get or shouldn't get. so, there's a whole range of ways they could consider this. it doesn't mean they're just going to go in and determine that a law against same-sex marriage is illegal discrimination. there are a lot of other things they can do with it. >> benefits are one thing. recognition and allowance is another thing. here's the other thing. it is real hard to get breaking material and information out of the supreme court before they're ready to give it but on occasion good connections yield something and yet a lock-up in terms of what they might do with prop 8 and doma. >> yeah. that's true. but you have to remember, on these big, sweeping social issues that the court has decided throughout history, desegregation of public schools comes to mind, brown versus the board of education, th
there's a variety of different ways they could decide on doma. you know, they don't have to decide on equal protection grounds but the narrow question of benefits or certain benefits or certain tax breaks that married people who happen to be same sex should get or shouldn't get. so, there's a whole range of ways they could consider this. it doesn't mean they're just going to go in and determine that a law against same-sex marriage is illegal discrimination. there are a lot of other things they...
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welcome to it. 22 minutes after the hour. eric boehlert from media matters rejoins us to continue right-wing world. rush limbaugh. >> what used to be traditionally strong and masculine is now old-fashioned, predatory and barbaric and it is. i'm not so sure that it's hollywood that's ruining women so much as it has been feminism. >> stephanie: oh. okay. >> wow. >> stephanie: i love it when he talks about manhood, don't you, eric? >> this is someone who -- what's his short hand for nags? interesting. sort of the larger perspective you know, george made an interesting point this week on sunday talking about how the opposition to gay marriage is literally dying off. and the opposition to feminism in america i think in terms of rush limbaugh's audience is literally dying off. as the social sort of debates go on and you know, opposition to it just becomes weaker and weaker. it is because these people who consume rush limbaugh and fox news they're getting older and older. >> stephanie: yep. >> thankfully, you know, their intolerance
welcome to it. 22 minutes after the hour. eric boehlert from media matters rejoins us to continue right-wing world. rush limbaugh. >> what used to be traditionally strong and masculine is now old-fashioned, predatory and barbaric and it is. i'm not so sure that it's hollywood that's ruining women so much as it has been feminism. >> stephanie: oh. okay. >> wow. >> stephanie: i love it when he talks about manhood, don't you, eric? >> this is someone who -- what's his...
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the high court agreed to hear two important cases, prop 8 out of california and doma out of new york. a federal court recently overturned prop 8 after the measure passed by voters. the court will decide if doma violates the fifth amendment of equal protection under the law that applies to same-section couples legally married in other states. >>> today is a very happy day for same-section couples in washington state. it is the first day they can marry under the new law, legalizing gay marriage. couples began lining up for licenses early thursday morning. some courthouses opened up at midnight for the ceremonies to take place. several local judges also donated their time to marry the couples. ceremonies are expected all day today. >>> last week, washington state became the latest state to legalize marijuana and now businesses there are jumping on the opportunity to create more revenue for themselves and the state. fox has the details. >> reporter: the sign is an invitation to come inside frankie's sports bar and light up a joint. in between pool shots, that's just what herald caldwell d
the high court agreed to hear two important cases, prop 8 out of california and doma out of new york. a federal court recently overturned prop 8 after the measure passed by voters. the court will decide if doma violates the fifth amendment of equal protection under the law that applies to same-section couples legally married in other states. >>> today is a very happy day for same-section couples in washington state. it is the first day they can marry under the new law, legalizing gay...